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NevadaConvert
12-07-2009, 08:40 PM
This guy is perfect. Up and coming coach, major experience, success in the secondary, and sounds like an epic recruiter: Greg Burns, Arizona State Cornerbacks Coach

http://thesundevils.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/burns_greg00.html




Another guy that looks interesting is John Neal at Oregon.

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3376&SPID=233&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=500&ATCLID=22690&Q_SEASON=2009

oldballcoach
12-07-2009, 09:19 PM
What about Dennis Therrell?

Go Pack
12-07-2009, 09:24 PM
Both look good assuming each is a good recruiter. Does Burton's replacement have to also be a defensive back coach? I wonder how a Head Coach evaluates the probable success of someone that has never held the position of DC before?

Pack Backer
12-07-2009, 09:36 PM
What about Dennis Therrell?

The only way this would be worth properly responding to is if you're joking. Or high. Or both. :p

wolfone
12-07-2009, 09:51 PM
I'm sure Ault and co. will find a good replacement...

nvFan
12-08-2009, 09:39 AM
This guy is perfect. Up and coming coach, major experience, success in the secondary, and sounds like an epic recruiter: Greg Burns, Arizona State Cornerbacks Coach

http://thesundevils.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/burns_greg00.html




Another guy that looks interesting is John Neal at Oregon.

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3376&SPID=233&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=500&ATCLID=22690&Q_SEASON=2009

The AZ guy sounds great. forward it to Ault

nvFan
12-08-2009, 09:47 AM
I'm sure Ault and co. will find a good replacement...

Based off of Ault's past successes at hiring coaches, i'm not so sure:

thehowling
12-08-2009, 09:52 AM
Based off of Ault's past successes at hiring coaches, i'm not so sure:

Yeah, I will say, from this outsiders perspective, succession planning has not appeared to be a strength of Coach Ault's.

NevadaFan
12-08-2009, 10:05 AM
Yeah, I will say, from this outsiders perspective, succession planning has not appeared to be a strength of Coach Ault's.

Don't agree with that at all. Ault has always surrounded himself with a great staff. Picking a HC to lead our program? I'll agree he's oh-fer 3.

Wolfhomie
12-08-2009, 10:17 AM
I still like this guy

http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=54307&SPID=4061&DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=536980&Q_SEASON=2009

I think it's essential to have a proven track record as a dc and this guy has the experience. Plus you get the added benefit of some insider information on your main inconference nemesis.

renowiggum
12-08-2009, 11:02 AM
I still like this guy

http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=54307&SPID=4061&DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=536980&Q_SEASON=2009

I think it's essential to have a proven track record as a dc and this guy has the experience. Plus you get the added benefit of some insider information on your main inconference nemesis.

I like the way you think.

Blueblood
12-08-2009, 11:13 AM
I still like this guy

http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=54307&SPID=4061&DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=536980&Q_SEASON=2009

I think it's essential to have a proven track record as a dc and this guy has the experience. Plus you get the added benefit of some insider information on your main inconference nemesis.

I agree but what's the probability that you can pry a guy away from his alma mater to a rival school for a position with more responsibility and that probably pays a similar amount of money? Not to mention Wilcox will be a lead candidate for numerous head coaching vacancies this offseason and we all know Boise's track record for internal hires.

After thinking about it more, I would be surprised if James Ward wasn't the lead candidate for the position. He's been instrumental in bringing in quality recruits from our target areas, he'd bring continuity to the team, and he's had some success as a DC at Idaho State.

Stuck in Seattle
12-08-2009, 11:24 AM
I agree but what's the probability that you can pry a guy away from his alma mater to a rival school for a position with more responsibility and that probably pays a similar amount of money? Not to mention Wilcox will be a lead candidate for numerous head coaching vacancies this offseason and we all know Boise's track record for internal hires.

After thinking about it more, I would be surprised if James Ward wasn't the lead candidate for the position. He's been instrumental in bringing in quality recruits from our target areas, he'd bring continuity to the team, and he's had some success as a DC at Idaho State.

It's certainly possible, but I don't think a Boise coach that's a Boise grad in the BSU hall of fame is coming here. I think this is interesting:

Assistant coach salaries:

Nevada: Low $70,710 High $138,200 Total $907,260
Boise: Low $109,493 High $ $224,466 Total $1,577,153

Both teams have 9 paid assistants. So if we assume that both the OC and DC get $224k per year for Boise and 1 coach gets only $109k then the other coaches average $170k per year. That's significantly more than our highest paid assistant coach.

Blueblood
12-08-2009, 11:34 AM
It's certainly possible, but I don't think a Boise coach that's a Boise grad in the BSU hall of fame is coming here. I think this is interesting:

Assistant coach salaries:

Nevada: Low $70,710 High $138,200 Total $907,260
Boise: Low $109,493 High $ $224,466 Total $1,577,153

Both teams have 9 paid assistants. So if we assume that both the OC and DC get $224k per year for Boise and 1 coach gets only $109k then the other coaches average $170k per year. That's significantly more than our highest paid assistant coach.


Ouch! And Boise's cost of living is probably much lower than Reno's too.

Wolfhomie
12-08-2009, 11:37 AM
It's certainly possible, but I don't think a Boise coach that's a Boise grad in the BSU hall of fame is coming here. I think this is interesting:

Assistant coach salaries:

Nevada: Low $70,710 High $138,200 Total $907,260
Boise: Low $109,493 High $ $224,466 Total $1,577,153

Both teams have 9 paid assistants. So if we assume that both the OC and DC get $224k per year for Boise and 1 coach gets only $109k then the other coaches average $170k per year. That's significantly more than our highest paid assistant coach.

Why do you have to screw up a good fantasy?;) The only hope we could rest on is someone looking to move up and having dc on your resume. This is where the rubber meats the road and when Mackay is half empty it sure makes it tough for the athletic department to afford to pay people more.

The good news is that Mastro and Coach K are still here for the time being!

oldballcoach
12-08-2009, 11:43 AM
I would be in favor of matching Ault's salary for a DC/SP Teams coordinator.

Wolfhomie
12-08-2009, 11:56 AM
I would be in favor of matching Ault's salary for a DC/SP Teams coordinator.

Are you saying you personally would be willing to match the funds? That's great! :D

Stuck in Seattle
12-08-2009, 11:57 AM
Why do you have to screw up a good fantasy?;) The only hope we could rest on is someone looking to move up and having dc on your resume. This is where the rubber meats the road and when Mackay is half empty it sure makes it tough for the athletic department to afford to pay people more.

The good news is that Mastro and Coach K are still here for the time being!

I knew the numbers wouldn't look great, but I didn't realize the disparity was that great. We need to find an up and coming DC from a 1AA school or take a chance on a lowly paid assistant. Or maybe someone from the MAC or Sunbelt.

Wolf Pack Jack
12-08-2009, 06:56 PM
Who has the best D in the MAC. Get that guy

DeRuyter came from Ohio

awp
12-08-2009, 09:54 PM
As far as D.C's go, I think this hiring could take awhile. I think there's a lot of sentiment towards a guy like Coach Mastro, who has an extensive history on the defensive side of the ball as a coach, being the new DC. In fact, the first few text messages I got about this, that was the first question from many of you.

However, that's just not going to happen.

This is an RB core that is accomplished the unthinkable; three 1,000 yard rushers in a single season. As everyone knows pretty well, the team is 600 some-odd yards away from breaking the all-time rushing mark. Additionally, the team is just a fraction off the all-time rushing yards per carry mark set by Army in 1945.

That's not a guy you want to move positions.

But it does show the respect everyone in the program, plus the fans, have for Coach Mastro. They know he could take that D' and make them Top 25. The bottom line is the next DC is going to need to come in with a similar philosophy and really find their niche.

In talking with Coach Burton, there's no doubt in his mind the improvement fans could see next year could be massive. ~AWP

nvbluewolf
12-09-2009, 12:10 PM
It's certainly possible, but I don't think a Boise coach that's a Boise grad in the BSU hall of fame is coming here. I think this is interesting:

Assistant coach salaries:

Nevada: Low $70,710 High $138,200 Total $907,260
Boise: Low $109,493 High $ $224,466 Total $1,577,153

Both teams have 9 paid assistants. So if we assume that both the OC and DC get $224k per year for Boise and 1 coach gets only $109k then the other coaches average $170k per year. That's significantly more than our highest paid assistant coach.

From the USA Today coaches database their DC and OC make ~$220,000/year. Kwiatkowski makes $164,000/year. No way nevada matches that.

Stuck in Seattle
12-09-2009, 01:43 PM
From the USA Today coaches database their DC and OC make ~$220,000/year. Kwiatkowski makes $164,000/year. No way nevada matches that.

Could you link that? That's where I got my data, but I didn't see a list of individual coaches, just the high, the low and the total. I think it would be interesting to check that out.

nvbluewolf
12-09-2009, 02:02 PM
Could you link that? That's where I got my data, but I didn't see a list of individual coaches, just the high, the low and the total. I think it would be interesting to check that out.

Absolutely.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-coaches-contracts-database.htm

You just have to click the school and it will open a list of all coaches and their salaries.

backsthepack
12-09-2009, 02:12 PM
I know this might not be a popular opinion, but what about going after a Sun Belt DC we like? We got kids on the team from VA, GA, FL, why not increase our foot print in the loaded South? If we can get players from the South AND California, this only helps the team more with the amount of talent.

Stuck in Seattle
12-09-2009, 02:30 PM
I know this might not be a popular opinion, but what about going after a Sun Belt DC we like? We got kids on the team from VA, GA, FL, why not increase our foot print in the loaded South? If we can get players from the South AND California, this only helps the team more with the amount of talent.

That or the MAC. I used the link in the post above and we pay better than both of those conferences.

battle.borne
12-09-2009, 03:20 PM
I know this might not be a popular opinion, but what about going after a Sun Belt DC we like? We got kids on the team from VA, GA, FL, why not increase our foot print in the loaded South? If we can get players from the South AND California, this only helps the team more with the amount of talent.

I actually think that is a great idea but not for recruiting. There are talented and established DC's who would love to make Reno their home and coach at a solid mid-major program. If he has recruiting contacts in parts of the USA in which we have little coverage, that's even better.