Air America shutting down

[BustNChops]

The evil empire of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have forced Air America off the air - declaring Ch.7. Air America could not convince enough businesses to make stupid advertising purchases and ran out of money - again. (They already had filed to reorganize in 2006.)

What a shock! Well, not really.

[thevoice]

Limbaugh and Hannity did not force Airhead America off the air. Their inferior product did. Their hosts, to a man, sucked. The free marketplace has spoken. Liberal talk radio does not work. As someone who works for the other side, I really wished that AA did work. I'd love some real competition. Not only that, we wouldn't have the leftist government and mainstream leftist media calling for a resurgence of the phony Fairness Doctrine. Watch, now that AA has gone belly up, some left wing nut job in DC will bring it up again. There is already a state sponsored left leaning radio network. It's called NPR.

[BustNChops]

Limbaugh and Hannity did not force Airhead America off the air. Their inferior product did. Their hosts, to a man, sucked. The free marketplace has spoken. Liberal talk radio does not work. As someone who works for the other side, I really wished that AA did work. I'd love some real competition. Not only that, we wouldn't have the leftist government and mainstream leftist media calling for a resurgence of the phony Fairness Doctrine. Watch, now that AA has gone belly up, some left wing nut job in DC will bring it up again. There is already a state sponsored left leaning radio network. It's called NPR.

I threw it out there to bait our friend Wolfchatter and so he can have his chance to say how evil Rush and Sean are + how those that listen to them can't think for themselves. I have KKOH or Sirius Radio on in the background while I work - every single day. I like Rush and Sean, and agree with what you said above. To say the product was inferior is being very nice.

That "fairness doctrine" is downright evil itself. I don't know the details just the basics, but wouldn't the courts ruling yesterday allowing big business to place campaign ads and ultimately not curb freedom of speech play against the fairness doctrine ever coming to fruition?

[thevoice]

You would think that the Supreme Court ruling would be in favor of free speech but this administration has pretty much been making up rules as it goes. We'll see what they try to do to us.

[FR4NV]

Here is your nut job, from a WND article by Aaron Klein on 01-14-10:


'New Deal Fairness Doctrine'

WND also previously reported (Cass) Sunstein drew up a "First Amendment New Deal" – a new "Fairness Doctrine" that would include the establishment of a panel of "nonpartisan experts" to ensure "diversity of view" on the airwaves.

Sunstein compared the need for the government to regulate broadcasting to the moral obligation the U.S. had to impose new rules that outlawed segregation.

Sunstein's radical proposal, set forth in his 1993 book "The Partial Constitution," received no news media attention and scant scrutiny until the WND report.

In the book, Sunstein outwardly favors and promotes the "Fairness Doctrine," the abolished FCC policy that required holders of broadcast licenses to present controversial issues of public importance in a manner the government deemed "equitable and balanced."

Sunstein introduces what he terms his "First Amendment New Deal" to regulate broadcasting in the U.S.

[wolf_chatter]

I threw it out there to bait our friend Wolfchatter and so he can have his chance to say how evil Rush and Sean are + how those that listen to them can't think for themselves. I have KKOH or Sirius Radio on in the background while I work - every single day. I like Rush and Sean, and agree with what you said above. To say the product was inferior is being very nice.

That "fairness doctrine" is downright evil itself. I don't know the details just the basics, but wouldn't the courts ruling yesterday allowing big business to place campaign ads and ultimately not curb freedom of speech play against the fairness doctrine ever coming to fruition?

I couldn't care less... never listened to AA. And Rush and Sean aren't evil. Disgusting, racist, stupid, myopic and retarded but not evil. They are just guys trying to make a buck by lying as much as possible to an audience to stupid to think for themselves. But hey to each is own right?

[Stuck in Seattle]

I couldn't care less... never listened to AA. And Rush and Sean aren't evil. Disgusting, racist, stupid, myopic and retarded but not evil. They are just guys trying to make a buck by lying as much as possible to an audience to stupid to think for themselves. But hey to each is own right?
I might go along with myopic. The rest of that is nonsense. I can't listen to Hannity and seldom listen to Rush, but just because you don't like them and their political enemies will say anything to try and discredit them doesn't make this nonsense true.

And there are plenty of liberal radio shows out there. But they're local. There's plenty of liberal talk radio here in Seattle so I assume it exists in most other major markets as well. Since urban centers are generally liberal but the rest of the country is conservative it makes sense that they are more successful focusing on urban population centers.

[wolf_chatter]

I might go along with myopic. The rest of that is nonsense. I can't listen to Hannity and seldom listen to Rush, but just because you don't like them and their political enemies will say anything to try and discredit them doesn't make this nonsense true.

And there are plenty of liberal radio shows out there. But they're local. There's plenty of liberal talk radio here in Seattle so I assume it exists in most other major markets as well. Since urban centers are generally liberal but the rest of the country is conservative it makes sense that they are more successful focusing on urban population centers.


Please.. the fact that they lie isn't untrue... They make shit up or slant shit to their advantage, take stuff out of context all the time ... Rush has been busted so many times it isn't even funny. So has Hannity. Don't get wrong I don't like the Liberal guys anymore than the conservative guys. Olberman may inded be the largest douche bag to be on TV right now (although O'Reilly is right there) the lesbian is unwatchable and I never tried AA because I figured it was just more of the same left leaning drivel.

[renowiggum]

Please.. the fact that they lie isn't untrue...

But that's not what (edit: all) you said. I quote:

"Disgusting, racist, stupid, myopic and retarded..."

[mr_pack]

The evil empire of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have forced Air America off the air - declaring Ch.7. Air America could not convince enough businesses to make stupid advertising purchases and ran out of money - again. (They already had filed to reorganize in 2006.)

What a shock! Well, not really.

I was listening to another radio show that was discussing this and they mentioned "Liberal Radio" does bad due to all the different factions that are seen within itself.

I find that to be a good way of putting it, "Liberal Person A is a lot different than Liberal Person B...so when Liberal Person B listens to A they usually wont see eye to eye. Whereas among the conservatives a lot of the same ideas run throughout so it doesn’t lead to the many factions among liberals

[wolf_chatter]

But that's not what (edit: all) you said. I quote:

"Disgusting, racist, stupid, myopic and retarded..."

much out.

Come on RW you are clearly one of the brightest guys on here. you know godamn well those two are idiots that spew hate in various forms to the under-educated and under informed masses that wish to believe all the lies they are told. That goes for both sides.

[AJ fan]

I was listening to another radio show that was discussing this and they mentioned "Liberal Radio" does bad due to all the different factions that are seen within itself.

I find that to be a good way of putting it, "Liberal Person A is a lot different than Liberal Person B...so when Liberal Person B listens to A they usually wont see eye to eye. Whereas among the conservatives a lot of the same ideas run throughout so it doesn’t lead to the many factions among liberals

Um I think the reason Air America failed is there is already a fantastic liberal radio station. NPR. Between listening to this and regular doses of Fox at the rents house I feel fair and balanced. If Hannity comes on I make them change it he gives me a rash.

[student4ever]

LOL. I thought this thread was going to be about that movie with Mel Gibson that came out in the late '80s or early '90s and had no idea how it could get to this many posts.

As for this Air America, never heard of it until today.

[backsthepack]

Ditto, except for the Mel Gibson thing. I'm not that old.:p

[NevadaConvert]

I've tried listening to it in the past, and it's just bad radio. Nevermind to politics, the on air talent sucked. A good radio person will have 50% of the audience that tunes in because they love to hate him/her, and 50% that either like or love the person.....and in both cases they feel the show is interesting and can't turn it off because they want to hear what happens next. That's how the shows on Fox news have been so successful. The Fox news polls over the years have shown a pretty even split between conservatives and liberals that watch. If only conservatives watched, Fox wouldn't be nearly as successful.

On the flip side, MSNBC...Maddow, Olbermann, Schultz, etc. attract only far left die hards that love their insanely biased and often dishonest take on politics. It's one thing to be biased, it's another to add blatant dishonesty. Schultz even admitted himself that he would vote many times in the MA election if he could just to prevent Brown from winning. He didn't care if it was fraud...it was more important to keep him out. That's the kind of people you're dealing with on MSNBC. Even Ann Coulter, the nut case itch with a capital B, would never promote fraud or breaking the law to achieve a political objective. And if she did, the media would never shut up about it. However, when Schultz says it, and it's not even news.

[mr_pack]

greatest thing from msnbc

Chris Mattews gets a thrill up his leg when he hears Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnMevMJLdtE&feature=related

[Stuck in Seattle]

I was listening to another radio show that was discussing this and they mentioned "Liberal Radio" does bad due to all the different factions that are seen within itself.

I find that to be a good way of putting it, "Liberal Person A is a lot different than Liberal Person B...so when Liberal Person B listens to A they usually wont see eye to eye. Whereas among the conservatives a lot of the same ideas run throughout so it doesn’t lead to the many factions among liberals
I don't agree with that. We (conservatives) agree on many things, but there's a lot of disagreement as well. I do believe that the left is more of a collection of special interests, each focused on one or two specific grievances while the right is more holistic in philosophy.

Conservative radio gives context and analysis that's hard to find outside of blogs or Fox. Liberal radio is just repeating the same stuff you can find in any newspaper or on most any news program - though it does so in a pretty abrasive manner.