BYU Nevada Game thread...

[Stuck in Seattle]

I'm more into watching the game so there won't be lots of posts here.

Shaw has been getting abused on D. EVeryone is throwing crazy passes for turnovers, but the shooting has been great and the game is tied at 32 with around minutes 7.5 left in the first half.

[Stuck in Seattle]

Oh, and I don't think Babbitt has scored. He's getting doubled every time he gets within 20 feet.

[jwolfpack]

Babbit not doing good so far

[Stuck in Seattle]

Dario playing well. Maybe 6pts. No pts for babbitt still. 39-37 Pack. Kraemer with 3 threes.

[Blueblood]

Nice phantom call on Fields for the And 1.

[wolfin1]

time to step on their throats before the half

[jwolfpack]

Ray on fire from 3 Pack up by 2

[packman]

great to see it finally raining threeeess

[jwolfpack]

4 mins to go in 1st pack 39 BYU 37

[Stuck in Seattle]

Babbit not doing good so far

He's not doing anything wrong, they're just taking him out of the game. It's opening things up for others. He's best if he lets the game come to him.

I can't find live stats or a box score ANYWHERE.

Anyone else have luck with that?

[LMoneyFresh]

I really wish AJ would stop trying to make his personal highlight reel and start making more consistent passes and taking better shots.

[wolfin1]

I hate the announcers.

[Acoma]

Glad to see Kraemer making it count now. This will be great for his contribution to the team. Hope he goes lights out for the game. This should help Luke too for the inside game.

[Blueblood]

He's not doing anything wrong, they're just taking him out of the game. It's opening things up for others. He's best if he lets the game come to him.

I can't find live stats or a box score ANYWHERE.

Anyone else have luck with that?

Nope. You would think ESPN would have something...hopefully we see something at the half.

[backsthepack]

Come on Dario! You gotta get the put backs! Luke too!

[backsthepack]

Armon's gotta hit the front end of the FT's. 44 all 1:30 left

[wolfin1]

I hate all things byu.

[backsthepack]

Ray for 3! He has 14 49-46 after full court pass to Armon.

[backsthepack]

50-46 at the half. First time BYU's trailed at the half all year. Armon has 12 or 13, Kramer 14.

[wolfin1]

So are we Nevada, Nevada-Reno, Reno...the announcers called us at various times all of the above.

[jwolfpack]

Babbit struggling huge, Round table Ray keeping the Pack in the game, armon missed another front end

[wolfin1]

byu doesn't guard aryan looking white guys (ok... a little over the top) just give the ball to Kraemer and Olson

[rimrocker26]

Great 1st half. Hopefully we don't give it up in the 2nd half

[Acoma]

Luke might want to consider another year here before going pro if he can't handle the heat in this atmosphere. He needs to zone into his game and go off. How is fieds doing? Unfortunately (fortunately) you guys are my only stats today.

[Stuck in Seattle]

The last 10 minutes of the half is the best Nevada has played all year. The offense is crisp, the hustle is intense. If Armon were hitting FTs the Pack would be up by more, but still great play.

Kraemer's shooting is fantastic and makes a huge difference for the team. As long as they are going to double Babbitt and AJ the three will be open. Having someone that can hit that shot makes the Pack a completely different team.

Dario played his best half of his Nevada career. He's actually pushing guys out of the paint and fighting on every possession. Combine that with scoring and he looks great.

Shaw got eaten alive by the BUY freshman for the first 5 minutes. He scored around 10 of BYUs 22 points. But he's doing better.

The biggest problems were the out of control or lazy passes, but they seem to have got that under control.

Man I wish I had some live stats.

[Stuck in Seattle]

Luke might want to consider another year here before going pro if he can't handle the heat in this atmosphere. He needs to zone into his game and go off. How is fieds doing? Unfortunately (fortunately) you guys are my only stats today.

Fields is doing well. He probably has 7 or 8 pts. He hit one or two threes. I think one. He might have fewer points, but he's not forcing things other than a lazy pass for a turnover. Armon is being Armon and winning the battle with BYU's highly touted PG.

[Acoma]

SIS, Dario is handling himself without foul issues? This is HUGE. He is definately growing up. We have needed this for a long time.

[Stuck in Seattle]

SIS, Dario is handling himself without foul issues? This is HUGE. He is definately growing up. We have needed this for a long time.

I'm sure Dario doesn't have two fouls, and he may not have any. He may have been called for a block late in the half.

When I watch the team play like this I wonder WTF was going on vs Pacific, EWU and such.

[jwolfpack]

I'm sure Dario doesn't have two fouls, and he may not have any. He may have been called for a block late in the half.

When I watch the team play like this I wonder WTF was going on vs Pacific, EWU and such.

I know Dario has at least 1 foul. Ray's 5 three pointers are keeping the pack in the game, other than that I dont think this game is much different from the pacific and EWu games. BYu is shooting very very well and getting to the line alot. Fortunately the pack is shooting well also. Lots of turnovers..

[packman]

Another lead on the road, this time we finish it.:D

[backsthepack]

The BYU channel here has some of the strangest combination of music and content self commercials I've ever seen.

[Blueblood]

Pack 6-8 on 3pt % and 63% FG%. Key stats right there.

[Stuck in Seattle]

I know Dario has at least 1 foul. Ray's 5 three pointers are keeping the pack in the game, other than that I dont think this game is much different from the pacific and EWu games. BYu is shooting very very well and getting to the line alot. Fortunately the pack is shooting well also. Lots of turnovers..

Yes, Ray is hitting 3s and that's been huge, but the entire team is playing better.

Armon with 13pts.

[backsthepack]

Dario just picked up his 2nd.

[backsthepack]

Luke making some shots. Dario still gotta make those put backs, he knows he can't normally make both FT's.

[backsthepack]

Armon coughs up the lead. 59-56 16:25 left

[Stuck in Seattle]

Wow. At least 8 bad passes for turnovers in this game. Probably 4 or 5 of them resulting in break away layups or fouls.

If not for the stupid turnovers the Pack would be up by double digits...easy.

[NMpackalum]

Anyone know if there is an auto refresh mode on this site?

[jwolfpack]

Armon coughs up the lead. 59-56 16:25 left

Armon now auditioning for the NBA

[backsthepack]

Nice move by Dario two times in a row to give us the lead. 62-61 14 and change left.

[Blueblood]

I like the Orleans, is that where the WAC Tournament is headed?

[Stuck in Seattle]

62-61 Nevada. BYU going to the line on a Shaw foul. He's been the weakest link in this game. That freshman OWNS him.

Dario is just tearing it up. He probably has 12-14pts. He even hit his last 2 FTs.

Luke now has 4pts, but he's doing the right thing by passing to Hunt when he draws the double.

Stop the turnovers and win this thing.

[BayArea Wolf]

Lets go PACK!!

[Stuck in Seattle]

Armon now auditioning for the NBA

AJ has been the best player on the floor for either team IMHO. He's made some mistakes, but he's controlling the flow.

Babbitt gets called for 5 seconds while dribbling around like an idiot. He's not the PG.

[backsthepack]

HORRIBLE choke on a possesion by Babbitt and the team. 67-62 BYU 12:57

[jwolfpack]

Babbitt turnover BYU by 5

[Stuck in Seattle]

BYU on a 6-0 run to take a 67-62 lead. The Pack may be stumbling into their second half collapse that we've seen too often.

[packman]

My lord.....same story different day. Just seems like they are very aware they have yet to close a second half on the road. down by 6 now:mad:

[Stuck in Seattle]

HORRIBLE choke on a possesion by Babbitt and the team. 67-62 BYU 12:57

The team? Babbitt decided not to share the ball and got called for 5 seconds. One of the few mental errors I've seen him make, but a big one at that point of the game.

[jwolfpack]

AJ has been the best player on the floor for either team IMHO. He's made some mistakes, but he's controlling the flow.

Babbitt gets called for 5 seconds while dribbling around like an idiot. He's not the PG.

Your right.... but he needs to cut down on the turnovers...Armon going off for 30 and the team losing only benefits Johnsons draft status.

[backsthepack]

The team? Babbitt decided not to share the ball and got called for 5 seconds. One of the few mental errors I've seen him make, but a big one at that point of the game.
The announcers said Armon was the only other member of the team even moving during the possession. Can only assume if people were trying to get away from their man, Luke would have been able to get the ball away, despite the tight defense.

[jwolfpack]

This game along with the season is going to come down to defense...scoring the ball is not a problem...defense is horrible...Babbitt misses a FT and shaw now with 4 fouls

[backsthepack]

Fields cuts the 7 point lead to 5 with 10 minutes left.

Looked like a 3 :/

[pfan8]

Too bad this team can't play defense. I know the game is within reach, but it's hard to be optimistic when this team shows such an inability to get stops.

[backsthepack]

Beautiful shot and foul by Feilds.

[jwolfpack]

my God, play some defense!!!!

[packgolfer]

Just found the game on the net, sounds like the BYU point guard owns Armon.

[backsthepack]

81-77 7:46 left. Commercial break. For me these commercials are all BYU, make me sick!

[Blueblood]

81-77 7:46 left. Commercial break. For me these commercials are all BYU, make me sick!

Really. What's up with that Ronnie Ron and Roscoe skit? Is that a marketing tool to get some diversity in their basketball program? :rolleyes:

[backsthepack]

Damn. Impressive deep 3 by BYU with hand in their face.

[pfan8]

That's game...I don't think Nevada can put enough defense together to make up eight points.

[jwolfpack]

not looking good for the pack....they just dont play defense.... BYU up by 8 4 mins left

[LMoneyFresh]

No way we win this game with armon playing this 1 on 5 game.

[Stuck in Seattle]

2 real problems. BYU hitting all their open 3s. Nevada getting selfish instead of sharing the ball. Well, plus TOs. But the run of 3s by BYU in the second half is the dagger in the heart.

At least 12pts on breakaway layups by BYU off of stolen passes in this game.

Bad habit developed vs bad teams.

[packman]

i mean really what are you going to do...they are making everything!!

[Stuck in Seattle]

BYU''s PG owning Armon in this half, but he's hitting 3s like a madman. The last one was off balance with AJ's hand right in his face and at least a foot behind the line.

[packgolfer]

Like I said found the game on the net, but these BYU guys are tough to listen to.

[jwolfpack]

i mean really what are you going to do...they are making everything!!

I dont know...how about play defense....EWU made everything too and wagner shot very well too...coincidence????

[Stuck in Seattle]

52pts so far this half for BYU and still almost 3 minutes left in the half. Pack down by 8 and the Pack MUST stop BYU without fouling the next few times down the floor or it's over.

[rimrocker26]

Well the WAC tournaments in Reno this year. We've shown that we can compete with the best. Hopefully by the end of the year we will be in position to win these games.

[LMoneyFresh]

Longer this game goes, the more disgusted I get with aj. Too many turnovers for the pg, crappy ft shooting, bad defense, low assists, then he didn't pass the ball for what 3-4 straight posessions?!? He may be scoring a lot of points, but I am so far from satisfied with his performance.

[jwolfpack]

Well the WAC tournaments in Reno this year. We've shown that we can compete with the best. Hopefully by the end of the year we will be in position to win these games.

No defense no championship...simple as that

[packgolfer]

Well the WAC tournaments in Reno this year. We've shown that we can compete with the best. Hopefully by the end of the year we will be in position to win these games.


Starts with DEFENSE and we don't have any.

[backsthepack]

21 of 22 from the line for BYU? Where would this game be if we shot that well?

[packman]

Hunt might really becoming into his own on offense

[Stuck in Seattle]

21 of 22 from the line for BYU? Where would this game be if we shot that well?

I think we'd still be losing by 1 or 2 pts. The Pack hasn't been getting to the line much. But Dario is 7-8 FTs which is heartening.

[jwolfpack]

Starts with DEFENSE and we don't have any.

Same thing with Football...No defense no championship......Armon's stats looks great, Luke's look great but their defense isnt helping thier team beat a anybody good.....

[packgolfer]

Same thing with Football...No defense no championship......Armon's stats looks great, Luke's look great but their defense isnt helping thier team beat a anybody good.....


I think NBA players play defense, at least well enough to get to the NBA. Both need to improve alot.

[packman]

NBA and defense...yeah ok?:confused:

[packgolfer]

NBA and defense...yeah ok?:confused:

Like I said play it well enough to get there.

[jwolfpack]

I think NBA players play defense, at least well enough to get to the NBA. Both need to improve alot.

They destroy the college game......Javale never played defense except for blocks and now a team with two first round picks just gave up 110 point in fricken college game

[Nosebleed]

Great game for the Wolf Pack. Yes we did not win, but I saw a lot of positives. Dario!!! Wow way to go. Lets win one tomorrow and split this road trip. Then bring on WAC play.

Rick

[Stuck in Seattle]

64 second half points for BYU. The stats will probably show a 65% or better second half shooting percentage.

[packgolfer]

They destroy the college game......Javale never played defense except for blocks and now a team with two first round picks just gave up 110 point in fricken college game


Total agreement here. I don't think we have 2 first rounders.

[Stuck in Seattle]

They destroy the college game......Javale never played defense except for blocks and now a team with two first round picks just gave up 110 point in fricken college game

Nobody complains about our defense more than me, but I don't know why you signal out our two best players. I saw plenty of effort for the most part. I think it's coaching as the defense gets worse every year since TJ left. The team does not have a defensive identity and doesn't play with discipline and focus.

That's teaching and systemic problems IMHO.

And I'm not singling out Carter. It was this way when he took over. But it's up to him to fix it.

[jwolfpack]

Nobody complains about our defense more than me, but I don't know why you signal out our two best players. I saw plenty of effort for the most part. I think it's coaching as the defense gets worse every year since TJ left. The team does not have a defensive identity and doesn't play with discipline and focus.

That's teaching and systemic problems IMHO.

And I'm not singling out Carter. It was this way when he took over. But it's up to him to fix it.

I single them out because they are the leaders and best players on this team. Its a team game not an audition for the NBA. Had enough of that with Mcgee...... I'd rather they declare and hire an agent then not committ themselves to playing defense. If they committ then maybe the rest of the fellas committ. Doesn matter if its wagner, south dakota or north carolilna opposing team are shredding the pack.

This wasnt Kansas that just torched them from 110 points!

Does Pacific have anyone on the draft boards? Vegas?? BYU? we got TWO? I am happy they are going to make 8 million dollars next year...but what about their teammates and Reno? I'd be alot happier if they just committed to playing defense and LEAD the pack to the NCAAs.



Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where's the Tylenol?

[Rebels2k3]

I single them out because they are the leaders and best players on this team. Its a team game not an audition for the NBA. Had enough of that with Mcgee...... I'd rather they declare and hire an agent then not committ themselves to playing defense. If they committ then maybe the rest of the fellas committ. Doesn matter if its wagner, south dakota or north carolilna opposing team are shredding the pack.

This wasnt Kansas that just torched them from 110 points!

Does Pacific have anyone on the draft boards? Vegas?? BYU? we got TWO? I am happy they are going to make 8 million dollars next year...but what about their teammates and Reno? I'd be alot happier if they just committed to playing defense and LEAD the pack to the NCAAs.



Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where's the Tylenol?

"Does Vegas have anyone on the draft board?"

Derrick Jasper.

[jwolfpack]

"Does Vegas have anyone on the draft board?"

Derrick Jasper.

That makes sense, he is real good....enjoy having a team with a defense...wish we could

[PackWard03]

You guys ever realize that whether we're talking football or basketball...we always seem to be bitching about defense?!?! What gives???

[jwolfpack]

You guys ever realize that whether we're talking football or basketball...we always seem to be bitching about defense?!?! What gives???

rename the athletic brand from Nevada to Neva'a

Neva'a is hawaiin for No D

[Stuck in Seattle]

You guys ever realize that whether we're talking football or basketball...we always seem to be bitching about defense?!?! What gives???

I single them out because they are the leaders and best players on this team. Its a team game not an audition for the NBA. Had enough of that with Mcgee...... I'd rather they declare and hire an agent then not committ themselves to playing defense. If they committ then maybe the rest of the fellas committ. Doesn matter if its wagner, south dakota or north carolilna opposing team are shredding the pack.

This wasnt Kansas that just torched them from 110 points!

Does Pacific have anyone on the draft boards? Vegas?? BYU? we got TWO? I am happy they are going to make 8 million dollars next year...but what about their teammates and Reno? I'd be alot happier if they just committed to playing defense and LEAD the pack to the NCAAs.



Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where's the Tylenol?

When it's FB the coaches get 90% of the blame. Now it's basketball and the players are getting 90% of the blame. In both cases coaching is the biggest issue and I do not agree with the suggestion that the players are selfish and just don't care. If AJ was playing for UNLV I think he'd be playing better defense because that's the focus of the coaching staff and that's the team's identity and culture under Kruger. Just like it was for TJ.

[Acoma]

Is it possible that Carter is preaching more points, faster paced game? I thought he and the team were selling that this year. If so, they are accomplishing the goal. I hope that they maintain this for the rest of the year. I also hope that this was part one of the goal, that part two is to evolve the team into a defensive team as well. I am not sure if a team can score big and have a defensive strategy, especially in year one of a new coaching philosophy. At least I see maturity by a few players in pressure games...Hunt, Kraemer and AJ. We just need to have one or two killer D players and this team is sick. Can we have it all? Maybe not this year, do you think maybe next year? I see AJ gone but not Luke.

[Packmike]

This was a tough loss to a good team that caught fire shooting the 3 in the second half - I've seen 4 Pack games this season and a handful of other WAC teams play and I am more confident than ever that the Pack has a GREAT chance of winning the WAC tourney at home in March. I hope to be there to see it...