victims of budget cuts...

[NVinVA]

I am a Supply Chain Management grad, and my old professor sent out an email letting us know that they are getting the axe. Its pretty rediculous... it was well recognized as one of the best SCM programs in the world. Not only that, warehousing/distubution is one of the biggest industries in Reno/Sparks.

Does anyone know of any other programs (or maybe complete colleges) that are getting eliminated due to the latest budget cuts? I'm just curious to see who else is getting screwed......

[Stuck in Seattle]

I'm disappointed but not surprised to see such programs be among the first to go. Luckily it will still be easy to get a Sociology degree.

[backsthepack]

My understanding as another business student(Information Systems), was that SCM got cut because of the low amount of enrollment in the program.

[ord_buckeye]

I'm disappointed but not surprised to see such programs be among the first to go. Luckily it will still be easy to get a Sociology degree.

Sorry to disagree with what I assume is sarcasm, but the core arts and sciences are the foundation of any university worthy of the name. Take away those, and I don't care how good any business or engineering program is, the institution becomes much closer to being DeVry than a true university.

[Stuck in Seattle]

Sorry to disagree with what I assume is sarcasm, but the core arts and sciences are the foundation of any university worthy of the name. Take away those, and I don't care how good any business or engineering program is, the institution becomes much closer to being DeVry than a true university.
And we'll be putting out plenty of people with degrees in Women's studies that drive school buses part time while trying to figure out how to pay off their student loans. That's actually a true story about a friend of mine by the way. But there are lots of articles out there talking about this very situation. You only need so many graduates with these types of degrees.

But yeah, I harp on this as a message board version of a titty twister. Sometimes I can't help myself.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u314/kellykennesaw/johnny-knoxville-titty-twister.jpg

[mr_pack]

I think 99% of degrees are hogwash, I think a degree that involves computer programming or foreign language are the only degrees that actually gives you a skill that can be used, maybe a few others too. Other degrees like business, social science, art, and engineering really does not teach much. Getting a degree has turned into a form of validation. It is common to see a lawyer with an engineering degree, and engineer with a social science degree. A degree shows that you can make it through a “bs session” (essay writing) and making it to class some of the time.

All that separates a business admin degree away from an art history degree are 20 classes at ***. So these 20 classes equates to 2years which is half of a degree. But really, it doesn’t give big enough separation among the different degrees. Yes one person will know about opportunity cost while the other will know about impressionism and Monet. If they are side by side in a hiring process it comes down to who can suck better cock not the degree type.

[Stuck in Seattle]

I think 99% of degrees are hogwash, I think a degree that involves computer programming or foreign language are the only degrees that actually gives you a skill that can be used, maybe a few others too. Other degrees like business, social science, art, and engineering really does not teach much. Getting a degree has turned into a form of validation. It is common to see a lawyer with an engineering degree, and engineer with a social science degree. A degree shows that you can make it through a “bs session” (essay writing) and making it to class some of the time.

All that separates a business admin degree away from an art history degree are 20 classes at ***. So these 20 classes equates to 2years which is half of a degree. But really, it doesn’t give big enough separation among the different degrees. Yes one person will know about opportunity cost while the other will know about impressionism and Monet. If they are side by side in a hiring process it comes down to who can suck better cock not the degree type.
I learned many, many things in earning my business degree that have helped me in my career. I don't agree with you at all. And the things I learned in my electives have enriched my life in many ways. By the way, I make fun of Sociology buy I have 9 credits in it and considered it as a major.

[mr_pack]

I hear you, but do you think someone in your same position would do just as well as you if they had another type degree, my guess would be yes if they matched your same level of drive and intellect? Look at all the successful business owners that operate proficiently without any degree. I feel a person learns with real experiences and it can not be found in a class room. Yes you can get some insight but that is not enough to actually know what to do when it comes time to make a decision

Personally if I were in a position to hire someone at the top of my company I would take someone without a degree that has a proven record of success rather than a recent mba grad from Harvard that has limited experience.

So are you more likely to vote for a politician or go to a lawyer if they have a political science or business degree…I bet you wouldn’t care...thus making degrees near pointless. They serve a purpose of validating and maybe it will give a person the edge in choices they make during their time on the job.

[student4ever]

I learned many, many things in earning my business degree that have helped me in my career. I don't agree with you at all. And the things I learned in my electives have enriched my life in many ways. By the way, I make fun of Sociology buy I have 9 credits in it and considered it as a major.

My favorite sociology story was back when somebody was interviewing David Ellis during his freshman year and asked him what he was planning to major in. His answer was "They told me I was going to major in Sociology."

[student4ever]

I am a Supply Chain Management grad, and my old professor sent out an email letting us know that they are getting the axe. Its pretty rediculous... it was well recognized as one of the best SCM programs in the world. Not only that, warehousing/distubution is one of the biggest industries in Reno/Sparks.

Does anyone know of any other programs (or maybe complete colleges) that are getting eliminated due to the latest budget cuts? I'm just curious to see who else is getting screwed......

This pdf (http://www.***.edu/provost/StrategicPlan/curricular-review-proposal-03012010.pdf) has everything listed and why those programs are the ones under consideration for being cut.

These are just the academic cuts. The non-academic cuts will be announced sometime next week evidently.

[ord_buckeye]

I learned many, many things in earning my business degree that have helped me in my career. I don't agree with you at all. And the things I learned in my electives have enriched my life in many ways. By the way, I make fun of Sociology buy I have 9 credits in it and considered it as a major.

We agree in disagreeing with the above poster. OTOH, at least at Ohio State, as a history degree (B.A.) I was required to take the same calculus sequence as the business majors and more science and a foreign language. The other half of my liberal arts degree (B.S. in econ) required me to take the same calculus sequence as the engineers and hard science majors and even larger science requirement.

Now for learning to run a business, I'm sure that what I learned from my first two investors (a retired Fortune 300 CEO and a finance law partner at one of the country's top law firms)--to me--was far more valuable than having taken business classes at Fisher. Converseley, I think it would have been next to impossible to go out and obtain everything that I gained from a well rounded liberal arts education outside of a university environment.

I still think the best preparation for business is a top flight liberal arts and sciences degree followed by an MBA for the practical aspects.

[NevadaConvert]

I have a BS Business Adm/Marketing degree from SDSU and a BS Civil Engineering degree from UNLV, and I'm still dumb as a brick. Well, maybe a little smarter. :)

I actually think it depends on the major, but it certainly not a complete waste of time. My business degree didn't teach me nearly as much as my CE did. You absolutely need the engineering fundementals in school if you're going to have a chance to learn your job out of school in engineering. Most take for granted what they already know. You know a lot more than you think compared to when you were still a college frosh.

[NVinVA]

This pdf (http://www.***.edu/provost/StrategicPlan/curricular-review-proposal-03012010.pdf) has everything listed and why those programs are the ones under consideration for being cut.

These are just the academic cuts. The non-academic cuts will be announced sometime next week evidently.

Thanks for posting this, it is exactly what I was looking for! I'm glad they at least gave reasoning behind their decisions. This whole situation blows.

[AJ fan]

My favorite sociology story was back when somebody was interviewing David Ellis during his freshman year and asked him what he was planning to major in. His answer was "They told me I was going to major in Sociology."

He should have majored in Cafeteria and Weight room!

[ord_buckeye]

. If they are side by side in a hiring process it comes down to who can suck better cock not the degree type.

So you're sayin' Battle.Borne gets the job?;)

[rimrocker26]

We agree in disagreeing with the above poster. OTOH, at least at Ohio State, as a history degree (B.A.) I was required to take the same calculus sequence as the business majors and more science and a foreign language. The other half of my liberal arts degree (B.S. in econ) required me to take the same calculus sequence as the engineers and hard science majors and even larger science requirement.

Now for learning to run a business, I'm sure that what I learned from my first two investors (a retired Fortune 300 CEO and a finance law partner at one of the country's top law firms)--to me--was far more valuable than having taken business classes at Fisher. Converseley, I think it would have been next to impossible to go out and obtain everything that I gained from a well rounded liberal arts education outside of a university environment.

I still think the best preparation for business is a top flight liberal arts and sciences degree followed by an MBA for the practical aspects.

What were your thoughts on econ? I'm starting at Nevada next year and planning on majoring in econ. I'm just curious if you regret it, or if you thought it was a solid major? Almost every adult I talk to seems to wish they chose a different major haha.

[battle.borne]

I'm disappointed but not surprised to see such programs be among the first to go. Luckily it will still be easy to get a Sociology degree.

yeah I don't get the move. Reno is a hub city for distribution. It makes as much sense as axing the ski program for a UNiversity situated at the base of the Sierras! Supply Chain grads make great money and have ample intern opportunities locally. When I saw that, I was shocked. Like the world needs more Theater majors and Sociology grads? Glick is attacking the very programs which made this University great, just like the decision to ax Ag as opposed to killing the Women Studies programs and all that other fluff.

[battle.borne]

I still think the best preparation for business is a top flight liberal arts and sciences degree followed by an MBA for the practical aspects.

You talk OSU up like it's UCLA or Washington. I know you love OSU but come on man.....

[battle.borne]

So you're sayin' Battle.Borne gets the job?;)

I'm the one getting my cock sucked.

[ord_buckeye]

You talk OSU up like it's UCLA or Washington. I know you love OSU but come on man.....

Not really trying to talk OSU up, but addressing SiS's point about a business major being so rigorous while a traditional liberal arts majors are easy and useless.

As for your point, there's a gap between Ohio State and UCLA clearly, but I think most see UW and OSU as peer institutions. They're very similar in almost every way: undergraduate admissions, research, doctoral program rankings. Even USN&WR only has a gap of a couple of spots between them among public universities and 10 spots when private universities are factored in.

[battle.borne]

Not really trying to talk OSU up, but addressing SiS's point about a business major being so rigorous while a traditional liberal arts majors are easy and useless.

As for your point, there's a gap between Ohio State and UCLA clearly, but I think most see UW and OSU as peer institutions. They're very similar in almost every way: undergraduate admissions, research, doctoral program rankings. Even USN&WR only has a gap of a couple of spots between them among public universities and 10 spots when private universities are factored in.

I'm amazed a school with 90,000 students can function as effectively as OSU does.

[ord_buckeye]

I'm amazed a school with 90,000 students can function as effectively as OSU does.

Battle.Born, please. We have around 37K undergrad and another 14 grad/professional. Not much bigger than UW (31K/12K) and roughly the same size as Texas, Minnesota and Penn State.

BTW, just to make sure my assumptions were correct, I looked at last year's freshmen classes for UW and Ohio State.

Ohio State accepted a lower percentage of students 56% to 61%

Had much better test scores:
middle 50 percent on SAT: 1230-1380 for Ohio State; 1100-1330 for UW
middle 50 percent on ACT: 27-31 for Ohio State; 24-29 for UW

UW did have better class rank numbers: (83% in top tenth of hs class vs 57% for Ohio State).....


.....And we just won 5 medals at the Winter Olympics!