Ray Kraemer

[Packfan11]

I absolutely love his hustle and his ability to can the 3. I can't remember who was bagging on him, but he's always been one of my favorites on the team and he's been deadly beyond the 3. If this team consistantly gets good minutes and points from Ray off the bench we will be pretty good going into WAC play. I was happy to see our bench get so much burn tonight.

[Stuck in Seattle]

I absolutely love his hustle and his ability to can the 3. I can't remember who was bagging on him, but he's always been one of my favorites on the team and he's been deadly beyond the 3. If this team consistantly gets good minutes and points from Ray off the bench we will be pretty good going into WAC play. I was happy to see our bench get so much burn tonight.

Yep love his hustle. Not great on D and can't create a shot or dribble very well. We need him, but he's very one dimensional.

[PackNation]

I absolutely love his hustle and his ability to can the 3. I can't remember who was bagging on him, but he's always been one of my favorites on the team and he's been deadly beyond the 3. If this team consistantly gets good minutes and points from Ray off the bench we will be pretty good going into WAC play. I was happy to see our bench get so much burn tonight.

And just like your point about Brandon in the other thread, the threat of his outside shot opens up the inside for the rest of the Pack. Love guys like Ray and Joey who just seem to work hard all the time.

[shewolf11]

I am really impressed with Feutsch. I know he was the only player who had time today that didn't score but the little guy has energy and speed. I think for being a walk on straight from Reno (turning down bigger schools to stay in his home town) he really shows great potential. I love watching him play, albeit he still looks like a high schooler, he's a True (home town) Freshman and I'm eager to watch him grow as an athlete and contributing member of the team.

Oh, sorry Ray, not to steal your sunshine.... you're good, too. Just stay at the 3 point line and I'll continue to love you, also!

[Nosebleed]

I am really impressed with Feutsch. I know he was the only player who had time today that didn't score but the little guy has energy and speed. I think for being a walk on straight from Reno (turning down bigger schools to stay in his home town) he really shows great potential. I love watching him play, albeit he still looks like a high schooler, he's a True (home town) Freshman and I'm eager to watch him grow as an athlete and contributing member of the team.

Oh, sorry Ray, not to steal your sunshine.... you're good, too. Just stay at the 3 point line and I'll continue to love you, also!

I agree shewolf, Keith did have a lot of hustle last night. He is pretty quick.

Rick

[renowiggum]

I agree shewolf, Keith did have a lot of hustle last night. He is pretty quick.

Rick

Watching him shoot down the court to disrupt what looked to be an easy basket was nice. It was nice to see our #7-11 players on the depth chart all out on the court together last night, getting some significant minutes.

[RenoGuy]

I agree Ray is not good at creating his own shot, but he is hitting 52% of this threes. If you have someone hitting them like that, perhaps we should create some more plays to get him the ball? Right now it looks more like they just get it to him when they see him wide open.

Not to compare him to Ray, but I never thought JC Carrol was good at creating his own shot either. But USU was great at running plays to get him the ball for a quick shot. Carrol was quicker than Ray, though, and was still deadly with a quick release. I'm not sure Ray could do that. But I think we could run more plays where he could get off a shot without hurrying it.

[Packfan11]

I agree Ray is not good at creating his own shot, but he is hitting 52% of this threes. If you have someone hitting them like that, perhaps we should create some more plays to get him the ball? Right now it looks more like they just get it to him when they see him wide open.

Not to compare him to Ray, but I never thought JC Carrol was good at creating his own shot either. But USU was great at running plays to get him the ball for a quick shot. Carrol was quicker than Ray, though, and was still deadly with a quick release. I'm not sure Ray could do that. But I think we could run more plays where he could get off a shot without hurrying it.

Great point. Carrol was deadly coming off screens which is where a good number of Kraemer shots come from (a saw a double screen ran for him last night). He's been able to knock down those jumpers fairly consistantly so I'd guess playcalling will still go his way, but when the zone sags to protect underneath is where we'll see Kraemer's 3 point daggers.

[oldballcoach]

I agree Ray is not good at creating his own shot, but he is hitting 52% of this threes. If you have someone hitting them like that, perhaps we should create some more plays to get him the ball? Right now it looks more like they just get it to him when they see him wide open.

Not to compare him to Ray, but I never thought JC Carrol was good at creating his own shot either. But USU was great at running plays to get him the ball for a quick shot. Carrol was quicker than Ray, though, and was still deadly with a quick release. I'm not sure Ray could do that. But I think we could run more plays where he could get off a shot without hurrying it.


Ray Kraemer in the same sentence as Jaycee Carrol? Starting to figure out this is a good place to come for the joke of the day.

[battle.borne]

Yep love his hustle. Not great on D and can't create a shot or dribble very well. We need him, but he's very one dimensional.

Kraemer is fine on D unless his matchup is ultra quick or long. And I think he rebounds well for his size.

[RenoGuy]

Ray Kraemer in the same sentence as Jaycee Carrol? Starting to figure out this is a good place to come for the joke of the day.

Then why did you just mention them in the same sentence? :rolleyes:

[justintime]

Allow me to disagree as well on the Kraemer/Carroll comparison. Jaycee's primary weapon was the curl off the screen, but he developed a nice counter to the constant face-guarding, and was plenty athletic enough to beat you off a back cut or sink a running floater from 12. No, Jaycee never blasted past a defender with a lightning first step, but he did understand very well how to use the confines of his offensive system.

That said, if you push Kraemer more, you may be surprised what his skill set entails. It doesn't take tremendous athleticism to create your own shot... saavy and misdirection is more important.

[battle.borne]

Jaycee played 38 mins a night and had the best motor and spot up jumper the WAC has seen in many years. Ray is no Jaycee.

[Stuck in Seattle]

I agree Ray is not good at creating his own shot, but he is hitting 52% of this threes. If you have someone hitting them like that, perhaps we should create some more plays to get him the ball? Right now it looks more like they just get it to him when they see him wide open.

Not to compare him to Ray, but I never thought JC Carrol was good at creating his own shot either. But USU was great at running plays to get him the ball for a quick shot. Carrol was quicker than Ray, though, and was still deadly with a quick release. I'm not sure Ray could do that. But I think we could run more plays where he could get off a shot without hurrying it.

Initially Ray was going to go to USU, but changed his mind and came to Nevada. I sometimes think he might have been a heck of a player under Stew's system.

[RenoGuy]

Initially Ray was going to go to USU, but changed his mind and came to Nevada. I sometimes think he might have been a heck of a player under Stew's system.

I didn't know that. But agee he'd do well in a system like that. And that was the only point I was trying to make; get some plays to help set up Ray for a shot, as USU did for JC. Not that they are anything close to the same players. But if Ray can keep hitting threes at around 50%, he could put up some good numbers (not great ones like JC) if he got more scoring opportunities.

[Stuck in Seattle]

I didn't know that. But agee he'd do well in a system like that. And that was the only point I was trying to make; get some plays to help set up Ray for a shot, as USU did for JC. Not that they are anything close to the same players. But if Ray can keep hitting threes at around 50%, he could put up some good numbers (not great ones like JC) if he got more scoring opportunities.

Rumor has it a girl was involved. I hope that's still working out for Ray. He seems like a great guy to keep in the community.

[battle.borne]

Rumor has it a girl was involved. I hope that's still working out for Ray. He seems like a great guy to keep in the community.

He's girlfriend was from Douglas iirc.

[PackSped]

Rumor has it a girl was involved. I hope that's still working out for Ray. He seems like a great guy to keep in the community.

She sat in front of us with her parents at the UOP game. Sounds like they met in TX and she convinced him to follow her up here.

While I like Kramer and think he is a good asset I do not think he is our best fit for a sixth man. In the past we have had tough lock down defenders as our 6th man, and now we have a good shooter and below average defender.

[Posturedoc]

She sat in front of us with her parents at the UOP game. Sounds like they met in TX and she convinced him to follow her up here.

While I like Kramer and think he is a good asset I do not think he is our best fit for a sixth man. In the past we have had tough lock down defenders as our 6th man, and now we have a good shooter and below average defender.

I agree with that assessment, but Kraemer is the best Nevada has right now at 6th man. I don't understand why some folks (not you, Sped) continue to gripe about him. He is what he is and the Nevada team is just not going to be deep this season, though it will feel and be deeper than it is now by season's end.

[jwolfpack]

I agree with that assessment, but Kraemer is the best Nevada has right now at 6th man. I don't understand why some folks (not you, Sped) continue to gripe about him. He is what he is and the Nevada team is just not going to be deep this season, though it will feel and be deeper than it is now by season's end.


i agree with your post, not sure ray should handle the ball much,and he needs to improve his defense, but his 3 point threat is a good thing to have and he is the best we have. The next couple games Carter needs the starters to go out and put a 20 point lead up and then let ray brandon and london fire away from 3 point land....besides overall defense.....got to work out the 3 point problems this team is having.

[Packfan11]

While I like Kramer and think he is a good asset I do not think he is our best fit for a sixth man. In the past we have had tough lock down defenders as our 6th man, and now we have a good shooter and below average defender.

Let's think about that idea for a second. Yes we've always had a lock down defender as our first off the bench. That's great when you're guarding someone who might be a little winded after going for 5-7 minutes without a time out. You're going to be more effective against them verses someone fresh to start the game.

When you bring in someone who scores fairly well off the bench in first, you make that same winded starter have to suck it up and guard someone fresh off our bench. This will most likely force the other team into a zone defense and open it up for Luke and Co. to go to work.

I think both types of players have merit off the bench if you have either luxury. I'm pleased with Carter's decision making thus far (mixing talent) and as I've said before the burn our bench is getting now will serve us well going into league play. Kraemer is who we have right now and I think he's turning into the player we all knew he would become when he came here 2 years ago.

[NevadaFan]

Initially Ray was going to go to USU, but changed his mind and came to Nevada. I sometimes think he might have been a heck of a player under Stew's system.

I'm pretty sure he had verballed to Weber St? And I'd agree he's a quality Big Sky-level player. Playing high major ball, he's extremely one dimensional. He can knock down the 3 if open, and his feet are set. He can't create off the dibble, and when's the last time you seen him bury a 3 with someone in his grill? Ever?

He does hustle and I don't think he hurts the team. He's one of those kids that you need but I'd agree with Carter when he said Kraemer tried to be the hero against Pacific. He's a role player and he could be a decent one.

[Stuck in Seattle]

I'm pretty sure he had verballed to Weber St? And I'd agree he's a quality Big Sky-level player. Playing high major ball, he's extremely one dimensional. He can knock down the 3 if open, and his feet are set. He can't create off the dibble, and when's the last time you seen him bury a 3 with someone in his grill? Ever?

He does hustle and I don't think he hurts the team. He's one of those kids that you need but I'd agree with Carter when he said Kraemer tried to be the hero against Pacific. He's a role player and he could be a decent one.

Yeah, you might be right about Weber instead of USU. We last discussed this two years ago and now that you mention it, Weber sounds right.

[vegaspackfan]

I liked what I saw from Ray in the NC game. He looked good at times in the Vegas game.